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Thursday, September 15, 2005

"The Necklace"

Post a comment in which you journal (50 to 100 words) on the following topic:

In what ways is the short story "The Necklace" an example of what the class has been discussing regarding the concept of the "good life"? Does Madame Loisel follow the "good life" as described by Socrates or by Philebus?
  • see handout "Inquiry on the Good Life"
  • How do you know?

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  • The Necklace
  • 43 Comments:

    At 7:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    the neclace is a good example of what we have been talking about because loisel though of nothing but being rich while she lived with her husband, and after the party she thought of nothing exept the party .also, her friend did not even have a real diamond necklace which shows that she did not need stuff to be happy.

     
    At 4:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I say that was sort of the good life because she was joyous to hav earned back so much money but i also think that she wasnt that smart. If I was her I would have told the lady I lost the necklace and then would have just flat out given her the money it would have costed to replace it. That way I wouldn't have wasted ten years of my life or all that money.

     
    At 8:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The story of The Necklace relates alot to what we talked about in class. It is a good example because Madame Loisel wanteded the superficial things. She couldn't appreciate what she had in front of her. Even thought she had someone that loved her. To her the good life was having the same things or more than her friends.If it wasnt because she wanted to have jewels and not flowers then she would have saved herself and her husband alot of trouble. Madame Loisel was following the life as Socratetes described it.She only wanted the superficial things in life and that got her into a ten year debt. That made her get older the she would have.

     
    At 11:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    In "The Necklace" the good life appears in the form of material items, as usual. Like most of the results of the discussion of the good life, the good life was a selfish one. Madame Loisel was just as happy when she did not notice her necklace was missing. This shows she only needed self confidence to enjoy the night. Would life not be more simplistic without material luxuries and selfishness?

     
    At 10:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Loisel was following the good life according to socrates.

     
    At 1:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    In the story they show that the good life is always changeing. In the beggnnig she was joyful when she was in the party with the jewwls until she lost them then she was sad. A other thing was that she had to work and here husband to to pay of all the money they borrowed. That why the good life could always change

     
    At 3:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    the neclace does relate to what we talked about in class.its like jumping from on thought to another and she wasn't that intelligent instead of telling her the truth she hid it from her friend.then she had to work all those years for nothing to pay of her friend when the necklace wasn't even real.she found out later that the nacklace wasnt real and the one she bouoght was real and was worth alot.she should have appreciate what she had but she didnt and ended up paying the price.

     
    At 3:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    the necklace is similar to what we were discussing about the good life because madame loisel imagined of things better than what she had and coveted the things her rich friend madame Forestier had. Madame Loisel follows the "good life" as described by Philebus because she is focused on enjoyment, pleasure, delight, and other material objects.

     
    At 4:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The necklace had alot to do with the good life. Madame Loisel thought she needed to feel like she was living the good life, such as looking and feeling like a million bucks for the party that she would attend. She thought she had to make herself look and feel good in order for her to have absolute confidence, when really she was putting more and more stress on herself when she lost the necklace. So when you think about it, she really wasn't living the good life at all, and she caused ten years of lying to herself and her friend.

     
    At 9:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The short story "The Necklace" is regarding what we are talking about in class in the the concept the good life because the story is of a poor woman wanted to be rich and to have thing that make her happy and not feel joyful. Madame Loisel follows the way Philebus he say that we should enjoy,pleasure and delighted in are life so we can have a good life.

     
    At 11:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The story of the necklace is a good example of what we have being discussing about "good life".It is a good example because loisel had a very poor husband and all she dreamed about being in a good life was to be rich.She din't think that being poor could also be a good life because she didn't need really expensive things to be happy.For example what happened to her in the party she lost the diamond necklace and replaced it for even a better one.what happened to loisel is that she was always thinking of being rich and thats what i think made ols she was not happy with the life she had.In the other part the rich women didn't even have lots of good stuff maybe and she was happy and didn't get old like loisel.So maybe after what she discovered that the necklace that she was wearing in the party wasn't even worth that much she is going to treat life better like a good life.She doesn't need good stuff to be happy.

     
    At 4:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    willy rodriguez

    The "necklece" has a lot in common with what we been saying that the good life means. madame Loisel wanted to live as if she was rich. all the things that she thought of were things that she wasnt able to affort. evan though her husbad loved her. she wanted to have the things that her frieds had.

     
    At 5:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    the story "the necles" relates alot to what we have been talking in class during the past week. this story is a good example because madame loisel wanted the superficial stuff. To madame loisel the good life was having the same things or even more than her friends. only if she would of wanted the flowers over the jewels then she would of saved her and her husband some trouble. i think that madame loisel was following the good life as socrates described it.

     
    At 7:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    A.Arroyo said...

    The Necklace has alot in common with what we been talking in class because it talks about the good life. Loisel worked those ten years because she didn't tell the truth right away just to be seen as a good friend. You don't need expensive stuff to live a happy life.

     
    At 8:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    100230
    I think the neclace is an example of what we have been talking about in class because we have tryed seeing what the good life means. And in the short story Madame Loise thinks the good life means to be rich. what Madame Loise dosen't realies is that she can be happy with her husban forever, and with her riches she will only be happy for a limited time.

     
    At 8:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I think this story has to to a lot with what we have been talking about mostly because she thought having good things like fancy clothes house and so on but in the end she ended up finding out that the necklace wasn't even real so she was goo goo over nothin witch shows you don't need material things to be happy.

     
    At 8:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    well she seemed un-happy then joyful. the only time she seemed joyful when she told her friend the truth. she wanted more things cause she wasnt happy. she wanted more then what she had...which wasnt making her any happier. her husband couldnt do any thing to help her but it didnt. it was a good story and if u read it u will understand the metting to it.

     
    At 9:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I think that the necklace gives an example of a women that wants more than she could afford instead of being happy with her husband and happy with what she had. It gives a really good example of what we been talking about the good life because you dont need jewels nor a big house just have joy and be happy no matter what.

     
    At 10:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Bradley Reitler
    The necklace had alot to do with the good life. Madame Loisel thought she needed to feel like she was living the good life, such as looking and feeling like a million bucks for the party that she would attend. She thought she had to make herself look and feel good in order for her to have absolute confidence, when really she was putting more and more stress on herself when she lost the necklace. So when you think about it, she really wasn't living the good life at all, and she caused ten years of lying to herself and her friend.

     
    At 10:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Well the story "The Necklace" was a very good example of what we have been discusing in class for the past week."The Necklace" relates alot to the "Good Life", in this case the "good life" appears in the form of superficial materials.Madam Loisel was living the good life according to what the socrates had described what the good life was.In the story Madam Loisel prefered the jewelry and the fakeness rather than the flowers and the love from her husband.The pleasure and the happiness lasted only one night but the sorrow and sadness began the day after that night because she along with her innocent husband lost 10 years of their lives working their buds off paying a debt for the jewelry she had borrowed and lost that night of pleasure and fakeness.In my opinion living the "good life" is not only having money, cars, good looks, and superficial materials. I think that the most important thing in living the "good life" is having a healthy life, having people who care about you,love, family, friends, honesty, and cool permanent memories that can stay in your heart for ever, because Imagine that you are the richest man or woman in the world but with a health problem that could not be cured ever. Would you be able to live what we call the "Good Life"?

     
    At 10:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    s.avalos

    Well the story "The Necklace" was a very good example of what we have been discussing in class for the past week."The Necklace" relates alot to the "Good Life", in this case the "good life" appears in the form of superficial materials.Madam Loisel was living the good life according to what the Socrates had described what the good life was.In the story Madam Loisel prefered the jewelry and the fakeness rather than the flowers and the love from her husband.The pleasure and the happiness lasted only one night but the sorrow and sadness began the day after that night because she along with her innocent husband lost 10 years of their lives working their buds off paying a debt for the jewelry she had borrowed and lost that night of pleasure and fakeness.In my opinion living the "good life" is not only having money, cars, good looks, and superficial materials. I think that the most important thing in living the "good life" is having a healthy life, having people who care about you,love, family, friends, honesty, and cool permanent memories that can stay in your heart for ever, because Imagine if you are the richest man or woman in the world but with a health problem that could not be cured ever. Would you be able to live what we call the "Good Life"?

     
    At 10:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    120364
    The story of "The Necklace" realates to what we have been discussing in class for the past few days. Madme Loisel wanted more than she had she was not satisfied aobut what she already had. So she kinda made her life bad bcuz she wasnt happy.

     
    At 12:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The Necklace is a good example of the good life because you don't need expensive things just to make you happy. Madame Loisel wanted to be a good friend and replace the necklace. In the end it turns out that the necklace was an imatation. So she spent ten years just paying it off instead of telling Madame Forestierin the first place.

     
    At 7:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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    At 7:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    the story the neclace is an exsample of what we talked about in class because it teaches her to repect the things that she has instead of wanting something more and more expensive.she later learned that she was wrong to want things that shouldn't afford and end up working for it.she had towork day and night to pay of what she owed.

     
    At 10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    duh

     
    At 10:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I think if she was happy with what she had she wouldn't have gone through so mush trouble

     
    At 10:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I thought this was a real good story for the people that like to lie a lot because to just say the truth and get over it while you are at it.

     
    At 3:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Loisel is a selfish person.

     
    At 4:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I think the story the necklace is a good example of what we've been talking about because she thought the good life was just having jewels, and looking good, and always caring about what other people thought about her, she followed Philebus's opinion of the good life.

     
    At 4:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I really didn't like the story because as poor as Madaime Loisel she expected to get her way.I understand that she believes that since she works so hard she deserves what ever she wants.First,she complains about getting invited to the party ,then when she finally considers going she complains about not having a gorgeous dress.So when her husband buys her a dress she complains that she doesn't have jewelry,so shes just ungrateful altogether.Then,when she gets the neclace she loses it and doesn't even tell her friend right away.And don't even get me started on her friend.She had her thinking that the neclace was so expensive when it wasn't.So thats what I think about the story.

     
    At 5:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    C, Centner Period:6
    the neclace is a good explantion of what we have been talking about in class. Madame Loisel was just interested in material things. she also was more interested in the entertainment aspects of life, when she should be thinking of the things that really matter in life. this story just tells you what happens to a selfish person.

     
    At 5:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Mme losiel is so damn selfish.All she cares about is looking nice. And she has to pay for all the trouble shes cost herself and everyone else. She should get shot.

     
    At 6:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I say that "the necklace" almost the same as what we were talking about in class. It is almost the same as cinderella except the magic and the pumpkin part. Except her dream came true but she had to pay for it.The good life that she went with was philebus' view of striving for material objects.

     
    At 6:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The Necklace is a good example of Philebuses theory about the good life. Mme Loisel was selfish and only cared about her and not about her husband. If she would have just been herself she wouldn't have wasted ten years of her life trying to fix what she did wrong.

     
    At 6:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I think that the neclace is agood story because in the class we where talking about what we thought about the good life loisel always talk about how that she wants to be rich.When she went to the party she also was talk about how was at the party,and her friend had afake necklace.

     
    At 7:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    it was a great story but she had a great husband and lots of love and she still wasn't happy.i wonder what would scutually make her happy

     
    At 7:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "The Necklace" is a good example of how i would act in real life,m. this story is about a lady whom wanted to be rich and modern, she wanted to be this way because she didn't want to be embarrased, her husband and love didn't really matter to her, she only cared about the money, like i do , i only care about the money, and it's ok to only like money, because without money you couldn't do anything or have anything you want. this blady spent most of her life paying of a necklace , a real nice necklace, she waisted most of her money in this necklace, and at the end she found out it was fake.

     
    At 7:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    This story is about a poor woman (madame loisel)whom she regrets marriyng a poor man, for now she desires a lot of objects that she can't afford. She spends most of her life on paying off a really nice and FAKE necklace, but, she doesn't know it's fake until she finally pays it off. she must have felt bad knowing that all her money went to a 99 cent necklace!!!

     
    At 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "The Necklace" is a bout a lady whom wants so many stuff,that she can't afford , she married a poor man and she spend most of her money to pay off a necklace. this woman is all about money she feels bad when she doesn't have any. this is agood example of how i will never live my life, i think i would make sure the necklace is real before paying a million bucks for it. i 'm pretty sure i would notice if the necklace was fake!!!

     
    At 8:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    the necklace is a good example of the good life because all Madame Loisel wanted was to be rich. But that didn't help her at all because she spent 10 years just paying back the necklace she had lost at the ball. In the end Madame Forestier told her that the necklace was an imatation. So she wasted 10 years of her life just to pay back something that was fake.

     
    At 8:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I thought the short story referred to the disscusion we had in class. Madame loisel was a rich person who thought of nothing but being rich. She didn't appreciate life and what she already had. The good life to her was having the same things as her friends or even more. She was living the life that philebus was describing. She liked material things that made her happy.She spent 10 years of her life finding away to pay back Madame Forestier.

     
    At 5:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    the neckless story was about a lady that let another lady borrow a neckless. the lady that lady that had borrowed the neckless,lost the neckless and had to pay her the money that it was worth. then at last the neckless resulted to be fake.

     

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